This article is VERY interesting!
I completely agree with the author. The founding fathers did indeed intend that religion and government should be separate.
Fanatics like Santorum and the Religious Right would tell you differently, they are wrong! Several states have passed laws SNEAKING religion into schools etc. Even religious people NEED to stand up and say THIS IS WRONG.
It's chilling what is happening with the religious right. It needs to be STOPPED.
Showing posts with label Religious Right. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Religious Right. Show all posts
Saturday, April 28, 2012
Saturday, April 14, 2012
War on Religious freedom?
Interesting story in the Turkish Press.
It's amazing to me how the Christian Right can run round screaming at the top of their lungs that THEIR religious freedoms are being attacked and eroded when it is THEY who are focusing on forcing their beliefs down the throats of everyone who is within ear shot of their voices.
"We're starting to see our religious freedom taken away. Our Christian faith is being stepped on. Like kids in the schools -- they can't talk about God," Seriously? What about those of us that don't want to hear about your fantasy world in school? What about those folks in the world that don't believe the same as you? Don't they have the RIGHT to NOT hear about your gods in school?
"There's something wrong in America." Yes, I will tell you what is wrong in America... YOU!
"Christians are persecuted in many other countries and I think this is the next one," Really? YOU are persecuted? YOU? Have you listed to Faux News recently? All you folks do is BASH anyone that doesn't believe the way you believe. Typical Christian behavior... "We are UNDER ATTACK," even though it's YOU doing the attacking..
"They say it's the separation of church and state, but it's a falsehood," Dean said. No, buddy you are the falsehood. The separation of Church and State was designed to give you not only freedom OF religion conversely also freedom FROM religion.
The first amendment -- which prohibits the "establishment of religion" -- was written because the founders were concerned that government would interfere with religious practices, he insisted. So Wrong again. Read the freakin' amendment will ya!
The Supreme Court, however, has interpreted the clause to mean that the government cannot promote religion. As did former president Thomas Jefferson, main author of the Declaration of Independence, who wrote that the establishment clause sought to create a "wall of separation between church and state." Yes! Exactly Right. Thank you Supremes!
Yet many evangelicals and conservatives like Dean read the constitution and Declaration of Independence differently, finding proof that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. Sorry, kids. The good ole USA was founded as a SECULAR NATION. Again, read it.
"It's very hard to walk around any city in the United States and feel that religious people as a group or individually are suspect to mass persecution," Green said. Exactly! Ask an atheist or a Muslim who is being persecuted and you will get a VERY different answer.
If only we could see the USA for what it is. A secular nation that ALLOWS EVERYONE to practice or not, the religion or lack thereof of their choice. Sadly, I don't see this happening. Too bad we don't have an atheist running for president. If we did, I would definitely be voting for him/ her.
How do you feel about this?
Are you a Christian Crazy that supports this crap?
Are you a logical, intelligent human being that doesn't?
Where do you fall?
It's amazing to me how the Christian Right can run round screaming at the top of their lungs that THEIR religious freedoms are being attacked and eroded when it is THEY who are focusing on forcing their beliefs down the throats of everyone who is within ear shot of their voices.
"We're starting to see our religious freedom taken away. Our Christian faith is being stepped on. Like kids in the schools -- they can't talk about God," Seriously? What about those of us that don't want to hear about your fantasy world in school? What about those folks in the world that don't believe the same as you? Don't they have the RIGHT to NOT hear about your gods in school?
"There's something wrong in America." Yes, I will tell you what is wrong in America... YOU!
"Christians are persecuted in many other countries and I think this is the next one," Really? YOU are persecuted? YOU? Have you listed to Faux News recently? All you folks do is BASH anyone that doesn't believe the way you believe. Typical Christian behavior... "We are UNDER ATTACK," even though it's YOU doing the attacking..
"They say it's the separation of church and state, but it's a falsehood," Dean said. No, buddy you are the falsehood. The separation of Church and State was designed to give you not only freedom OF religion conversely also freedom FROM religion.
The first amendment -- which prohibits the "establishment of religion" -- was written because the founders were concerned that government would interfere with religious practices, he insisted. So Wrong again. Read the freakin' amendment will ya!
The Supreme Court, however, has interpreted the clause to mean that the government cannot promote religion. As did former president Thomas Jefferson, main author of the Declaration of Independence, who wrote that the establishment clause sought to create a "wall of separation between church and state." Yes! Exactly Right. Thank you Supremes!
Yet many evangelicals and conservatives like Dean read the constitution and Declaration of Independence differently, finding proof that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. Sorry, kids. The good ole USA was founded as a SECULAR NATION. Again, read it.
"It's very hard to walk around any city in the United States and feel that religious people as a group or individually are suspect to mass persecution," Green said. Exactly! Ask an atheist or a Muslim who is being persecuted and you will get a VERY different answer.
If only we could see the USA for what it is. A secular nation that ALLOWS EVERYONE to practice or not, the religion or lack thereof of their choice. Sadly, I don't see this happening. Too bad we don't have an atheist running for president. If we did, I would definitely be voting for him/ her.
How do you feel about this?
Are you a Christian Crazy that supports this crap?
Are you a logical, intelligent human being that doesn't?
Where do you fall?
Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Everyone should be able to use birth control
You know what?
Normally I don't like Obama, personally I absolutely do not like his fiscal approach to our country. You must understand when it comes to politics, I am Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal. I guess that makes me a libertarian since I don't want goverment intrusion into my life but I do like the idea of there being a military etc.
I have been reading tons of articles lately regarding the new healthcare plan requiring ALL medical organizations to pay for birth control, this is a good thing. Sadly, the religious right and of course the idiot republicans can't leave anything alone. So, what do they do? Protest it!
Yes, let's protest responsible reproduction. Let's protest logical family planning. Let's protest lower population (we are getting overcrowded as it is), hell let's protest lower welfare roles since birth control could be MORE accessible to everyone!
Seems stupid to me. If you want to not use birth control, don't use it. I for one find the option of my insurance paying for it a GOOD THING.
Matter of fact, because I can't stand the religious right and their idiocy, I think I will be voting independant again!
Normally I don't like Obama, personally I absolutely do not like his fiscal approach to our country. You must understand when it comes to politics, I am Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal. I guess that makes me a libertarian since I don't want goverment intrusion into my life but I do like the idea of there being a military etc.
I have been reading tons of articles lately regarding the new healthcare plan requiring ALL medical organizations to pay for birth control, this is a good thing. Sadly, the religious right and of course the idiot republicans can't leave anything alone. So, what do they do? Protest it!
Yes, let's protest responsible reproduction. Let's protest logical family planning. Let's protest lower population (we are getting overcrowded as it is), hell let's protest lower welfare roles since birth control could be MORE accessible to everyone!
Seems stupid to me. If you want to not use birth control, don't use it. I for one find the option of my insurance paying for it a GOOD THING.
Matter of fact, because I can't stand the religious right and their idiocy, I think I will be voting independant again!
Friday, November 4, 2011
Michigans new "Anti-Bullying" Law
So the "Social Conservatives" in Michigan decided it would be a good idea to pass an Anti-Bullying law. They even named it: "Matt's Safe School Law" after Matt Epling a student that killed himself after enduring years of bullying. On it's face this sounds great right? Michigan is finally catching up with the rest of the country and looking to stop bullying in it's schools and institutions right?
--Wrong--
Michigan is ONLY looking to stop bullying if you happen to bully someone of Christian belief. Yes, that's right. I was baffled when I read this. This law actually PROTECTS bullies from prosecution if they are bullying someone out of a "sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction". No that isn't a typo, if you feel that you are morally justified in bullying someone, you WILL NOT be held accountable for those actions in Michigan.
This law also has the following provisions; it does NOT require School Districts to report incidents of bullying, no provisions for enforcement of the law, no teacher training and it does NOT hold adminstrators of the schools accountable if the fail to act on any reports of bullying. It does NOT list any groups as protected OTHER THAN Christians, whose "personally held religious beliefs protect them". -- The Republicans logic for this is this "Religious Freedom".
On the Senate floor, this was ACTUALLY STATED on the record: "bullying kids is okay if a student, parent, teacher or school employee can come up with a moral or religious reason for doing it.” Then these same politicians go on to say: "The special protections for gay and transgendered teachers will make it extremely difficult for [public school] districts that might want to remove them from the classroom."
In other words, these religious right nut-jobs believe that efforts to protect gays, atheists, and non-christians from assault and discrimination and bullying impinge on their "religious freedoms" to express and act on their belief that the beliefs of others (orientation or otherwise) is an abomination. --SICK.
This belief relies on a twisted sense of religious liberty. Freedom of religious expression does NOT extend to kicking the crap out of someone because their beliefs or orientation do not happen to agree with YOUR religious beliefs. It does not give someone the right to fire an employee because they don't share your views on religion or sexuality.
I wonder, would these same people trumpeting the banner of "religious freedom" would feel the same way about their rhetoric if a muslim student beat the crap out of a christian student because he felt that the christian student were an Infidel? I doubt it, they would be APALLED!
Makes me want to be a Christian, I can bully people, discriminate at will and have NO consequence whatsoever as long as I "claim" that it's a religious reason. No, I can't do that. There is NEVER a good reason to do those things based on someones beliefs, orientation, skin color etc.
If there was a Jesus I would guess based on the philosophies espoused in the Bible, he would have been disgusted by the whole idea of protecting one group of people from accountability based solely on Religion.
--Wrong--
Michigan is ONLY looking to stop bullying if you happen to bully someone of Christian belief. Yes, that's right. I was baffled when I read this. This law actually PROTECTS bullies from prosecution if they are bullying someone out of a "sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction". No that isn't a typo, if you feel that you are morally justified in bullying someone, you WILL NOT be held accountable for those actions in Michigan.
This law also has the following provisions; it does NOT require School Districts to report incidents of bullying, no provisions for enforcement of the law, no teacher training and it does NOT hold adminstrators of the schools accountable if the fail to act on any reports of bullying. It does NOT list any groups as protected OTHER THAN Christians, whose "personally held religious beliefs protect them". -- The Republicans logic for this is this "Religious Freedom".
On the Senate floor, this was ACTUALLY STATED on the record: "bullying kids is okay if a student, parent, teacher or school employee can come up with a moral or religious reason for doing it.” Then these same politicians go on to say: "The special protections for gay and transgendered teachers will make it extremely difficult for [public school] districts that might want to remove them from the classroom."
In other words, these religious right nut-jobs believe that efforts to protect gays, atheists, and non-christians from assault and discrimination and bullying impinge on their "religious freedoms" to express and act on their belief that the beliefs of others (orientation or otherwise) is an abomination. --SICK.
This belief relies on a twisted sense of religious liberty. Freedom of religious expression does NOT extend to kicking the crap out of someone because their beliefs or orientation do not happen to agree with YOUR religious beliefs. It does not give someone the right to fire an employee because they don't share your views on religion or sexuality.
I wonder, would these same people trumpeting the banner of "religious freedom" would feel the same way about their rhetoric if a muslim student beat the crap out of a christian student because he felt that the christian student were an Infidel? I doubt it, they would be APALLED!
Makes me want to be a Christian, I can bully people, discriminate at will and have NO consequence whatsoever as long as I "claim" that it's a religious reason. No, I can't do that. There is NEVER a good reason to do those things based on someones beliefs, orientation, skin color etc.
If there was a Jesus I would guess based on the philosophies espoused in the Bible, he would have been disgusted by the whole idea of protecting one group of people from accountability based solely on Religion.
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