This is absolutely AMAZING!
I wonder how Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron fight THIS PROOF!
Oh wait, I can guess...... The devil planted the ENTIRE civilization!
Do you think the Devil did it?
Do you think it's proof of Evolution?
Tell me, I really would love to know what you think.
Showing posts with label way of the master. Show all posts
Showing posts with label way of the master. Show all posts
Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Conversations with Christian Zealots
I have been posting a few times now on Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort's Facebook page for their show "Way of the Master". I have to give them some credit, they haven't moderated me yet. That in itself is impressive since most places I post, they moderate my posts right out of existence (Cough. cough. Mormon.org etc)
If you enjoy a good debate (even if it is with irrational BuyBull thumpers) I would suggest going there and letting these folks know how you feel. It's fun and entertaining. The link is here -- Fun with Christians --
Here is a conversation I had with a few of them there on the subject of Homosexuality being a sin....
.Exhalted Outcast I am seriously baffled. No where in the Ten Commandments does it say that being homosexual is wrong. I realize that there are a couple passages that are NOT commandments about it but nothing in the "rules to live by" commandments? You know my blog explores alot of the christian mythos and it's effect on society.
Debbie Raymond Thou shall not commit adultery, and anything outside of marriage is adultery as Jesus said if you even look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery. You show me one Scripture that shows any marriage other than between a man and woman. And if you believe God is all knowing then He would know the problem society is going to have with this issue on homosexuality and He would have made it very clear if He did not have a problem with it but God does not because it is clearly a sin in God's eye and there are many Scriptures showing that homosexuality along with other sins if not repented of ,those will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
1.Laura O'Brien Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, 5 practicing homosexuals, 6 6:10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, 7 and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. I don't see how the Bible can be any more clear.
.Debbie Raymond When it comes to sin, as I read Scripture I see myself in there as everyone should, but as you see that you are a sinner in need of a Savior and with all your heart repent and ask for forgiveness, for only the Lord our God knows the heart can free us from the slavery is sin. Jesus freed me and now I see sin for what it is, but the first thing you must realize is your sin and only Jesus can free us from that. We must realize that we have a God of love and also a God of wrath that is Holy, Holy, Holy and cannot over look sin if you keep continuing in it. Put the Lord our God first in your life and the rest will follow. I pray that all those struggling with sin will just put your faith and trust in Christ, love Him above all people and all things and He will see you through everything.
Exhalted Outcast Here's the rub: I don't see myself as a sinner. I see myself as a HUMAN being and I don't honestly believe that an all knowing all seeing omnipotent being would CREATE a race of FALLIBLE beings then BLAME them for their fallibility. That logic does NOT make sense. Since the "creator" created everything including LOGIC and since the "creator" has to follow his own rules, he could NOT have had that sort of situation in mind when this all started. All of this sounds like interpretation and a fairly vague one at that. Heres the way I see this: Live a good life, be good to people and do the right thing and you will be fine. Worry about all that other stuff and you are just giving yourself an ulcer.
We shall see how they respond, I am sure it will be with BuyBull references...
If you enjoy a good debate (even if it is with irrational BuyBull thumpers) I would suggest going there and letting these folks know how you feel. It's fun and entertaining. The link is here -- Fun with Christians --
Here is a conversation I had with a few of them there on the subject of Homosexuality being a sin....
.Exhalted Outcast I am seriously baffled. No where in the Ten Commandments does it say that being homosexual is wrong. I realize that there are a couple passages that are NOT commandments about it but nothing in the "rules to live by" commandments? You know my blog explores alot of the christian mythos and it's effect on society.
Debbie Raymond Thou shall not commit adultery, and anything outside of marriage is adultery as Jesus said if you even look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery. You show me one Scripture that shows any marriage other than between a man and woman. And if you believe God is all knowing then He would know the problem society is going to have with this issue on homosexuality and He would have made it very clear if He did not have a problem with it but God does not because it is clearly a sin in God's eye and there are many Scriptures showing that homosexuality along with other sins if not repented of ,those will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
1.Laura O'Brien Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, 5 practicing homosexuals, 6 6:10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, 7 and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. I don't see how the Bible can be any more clear.
.Debbie Raymond When it comes to sin, as I read Scripture I see myself in there as everyone should, but as you see that you are a sinner in need of a Savior and with all your heart repent and ask for forgiveness, for only the Lord our God knows the heart can free us from the slavery is sin. Jesus freed me and now I see sin for what it is, but the first thing you must realize is your sin and only Jesus can free us from that. We must realize that we have a God of love and also a God of wrath that is Holy, Holy, Holy and cannot over look sin if you keep continuing in it. Put the Lord our God first in your life and the rest will follow. I pray that all those struggling with sin will just put your faith and trust in Christ, love Him above all people and all things and He will see you through everything.
Exhalted Outcast Here's the rub: I don't see myself as a sinner. I see myself as a HUMAN being and I don't honestly believe that an all knowing all seeing omnipotent being would CREATE a race of FALLIBLE beings then BLAME them for their fallibility. That logic does NOT make sense. Since the "creator" created everything including LOGIC and since the "creator" has to follow his own rules, he could NOT have had that sort of situation in mind when this all started. All of this sounds like interpretation and a fairly vague one at that. Heres the way I see this: Live a good life, be good to people and do the right thing and you will be fine. Worry about all that other stuff and you are just giving yourself an ulcer.
We shall see how they respond, I am sure it will be with BuyBull references...
Saturday, February 11, 2012
Evolution is a fairy tale?
Ladies and Gentlemen, the IDIOT Ray Comfort is at it again. You can read the article here.
This time he is attempting to attack Evolution as a fairy tale? Hmmm. I'm not an Evolutionary Scientist by any means so I am not going to try pretend to be one. It's interesting that he is saying that churches that are CHOOSING to celebrate "Evolution Week" should also have a "Cinderella Sunday" since they are celebrating 'fairy tales'.
Now THAT is ironic! I thought religion in general was about fairy tales. I thought every Sunday was a "Cinderella Sunday". Was I wrong? Don't people of all faiths celebrate their fantasies every Sunday?
“The only thing scientific about the theory of evolution is that it is science fiction,” said Ray Comfort. Really? Really? So all the decades of research and PROOF are for naught? The FACT that we can see evolution from one generation to the next in all sorts of organisms from the smallest bacteria to apes and let's not forget HUMANS! For example, it is undisputed fact that all human life came from the African continent some millions of years ago, yet there are diverse groups (races) of individual HUMANS all over the planet that have EVOLVED to have different traits from facial structure to skin pigmentation. How do you discredit this PROOF of evolution Ray? I will tell you how, by going to the most fantastic novel ever written and quoting it! Tower of Babel anyone? His ONLY proof to discredit this is an obscure story of people building a tower to heaven, a tower that archeology CANNOT find anywhere on the planet. A tower that would have been so incredibly tall that there would have to have been SOME remnants of it somewhere, but alas, NOTHING.
“The institutions that embrace the theory of evolution need to come out of the closet and stop pretending to be Christian. Either we believe Jesus when He said, ‘In the beginning God created male and female’ or we don’t. Biblical truth and the fairytale of evolution are incompatible,” Comfort said.
Given that the Bible was WRITTEN some 3,000 years ago and BORROWS many of the stories of creation etc. from the Mesopotamian cultures as well as Egyptian mythos, how is THAT fact? It's NOT Ray. Prove me wrong. The Mesopotamian culture wrote of creation LONG BEFORE the Christian Bible was even a thought! How can the Bible be factual yet you would have us believe that cultures that had the SAME stories PRIOR to the Bible's existence are false? Ray, WAKE up! You are an IDIOT!
“In recent years biologists have deliberately distanced themselves from that phrase and instead used ‘natural selection,’ because ‘survival of the fittest’ is easily linked to Hitler’s killing of the weak and letting the strongest survive. Atheism almost always embraces Darwinian evolution, which would have people believe that they are merely animals, and that there are no moral absolutes. I have been going to universities and challenging students to convince me that evolution has a scientific basis. No one can offer any proof, because Darwin’s evolution is scientifically baseless. All they have are theories that have to be received in blind faith,” he said.
So Ray is going to Universities and challenging the Students? What about the Professors? Oh, Wait! He wouldn't do THAT because a Professor of science WOULD discredit him and PROVE him to be the MORON that he is. He asks you to PROVE to him scientifically that Evolution makes sense, but then when YOU ask him to prove that God exists, he ASKS you to take it on "blind faith" his words, Not mine!
Hey Ray, you can't have it both ways.
I am issuing an OPEN CHALLENGE to Ray Comfort:
Come to my blog, post your thoughts and let me prove you wrong! I'm not an evolutionary scientist. I'm just a blogger! Oh, and I'm an Atheist. I would bet you that I don't hear from Ray, know why? He's chicken and doesn't have the BALLS to challenge me. Hell, I would be willing to be on his stupid little scare tactics show and be interviewed.
He won't though. I am sure of it.
Hey Ray. I dare you!
This time he is attempting to attack Evolution as a fairy tale? Hmmm. I'm not an Evolutionary Scientist by any means so I am not going to try pretend to be one. It's interesting that he is saying that churches that are CHOOSING to celebrate "Evolution Week" should also have a "Cinderella Sunday" since they are celebrating 'fairy tales'.
Now THAT is ironic! I thought religion in general was about fairy tales. I thought every Sunday was a "Cinderella Sunday". Was I wrong? Don't people of all faiths celebrate their fantasies every Sunday?
“The only thing scientific about the theory of evolution is that it is science fiction,” said Ray Comfort. Really? Really? So all the decades of research and PROOF are for naught? The FACT that we can see evolution from one generation to the next in all sorts of organisms from the smallest bacteria to apes and let's not forget HUMANS! For example, it is undisputed fact that all human life came from the African continent some millions of years ago, yet there are diverse groups (races) of individual HUMANS all over the planet that have EVOLVED to have different traits from facial structure to skin pigmentation. How do you discredit this PROOF of evolution Ray? I will tell you how, by going to the most fantastic novel ever written and quoting it! Tower of Babel anyone? His ONLY proof to discredit this is an obscure story of people building a tower to heaven, a tower that archeology CANNOT find anywhere on the planet. A tower that would have been so incredibly tall that there would have to have been SOME remnants of it somewhere, but alas, NOTHING.
“The institutions that embrace the theory of evolution need to come out of the closet and stop pretending to be Christian. Either we believe Jesus when He said, ‘In the beginning God created male and female’ or we don’t. Biblical truth and the fairytale of evolution are incompatible,” Comfort said.
Given that the Bible was WRITTEN some 3,000 years ago and BORROWS many of the stories of creation etc. from the Mesopotamian cultures as well as Egyptian mythos, how is THAT fact? It's NOT Ray. Prove me wrong. The Mesopotamian culture wrote of creation LONG BEFORE the Christian Bible was even a thought! How can the Bible be factual yet you would have us believe that cultures that had the SAME stories PRIOR to the Bible's existence are false? Ray, WAKE up! You are an IDIOT!
“In recent years biologists have deliberately distanced themselves from that phrase and instead used ‘natural selection,’ because ‘survival of the fittest’ is easily linked to Hitler’s killing of the weak and letting the strongest survive. Atheism almost always embraces Darwinian evolution, which would have people believe that they are merely animals, and that there are no moral absolutes. I have been going to universities and challenging students to convince me that evolution has a scientific basis. No one can offer any proof, because Darwin’s evolution is scientifically baseless. All they have are theories that have to be received in blind faith,” he said.
So Ray is going to Universities and challenging the Students? What about the Professors? Oh, Wait! He wouldn't do THAT because a Professor of science WOULD discredit him and PROVE him to be the MORON that he is. He asks you to PROVE to him scientifically that Evolution makes sense, but then when YOU ask him to prove that God exists, he ASKS you to take it on "blind faith" his words, Not mine!
Hey Ray, you can't have it both ways.
I am issuing an OPEN CHALLENGE to Ray Comfort:
Come to my blog, post your thoughts and let me prove you wrong! I'm not an evolutionary scientist. I'm just a blogger! Oh, and I'm an Atheist. I would bet you that I don't hear from Ray, know why? He's chicken and doesn't have the BALLS to challenge me. Hell, I would be willing to be on his stupid little scare tactics show and be interviewed.
He won't though. I am sure of it.
Hey Ray. I dare you!
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