I thought you might like a peek into what passes as "doing god's work" on Twitter these days.
I think you might enjoy the interactions, I didn't censor any of the names etc., so if you want to follow any of these folks, including myself, feel free.
ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
RT @PerpetuallA: #atheists are cowards, this is a well known fact #atheism #atheist + cite your source please. Seems to me you are too.
16h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad I am not the one going around blocking people who disagree with me. Atheists LOATHE open discussion.
ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA I haven't blocked anyone ever. I welcome open INTELLIGENT discussion, I have yet to see that from you #atheist #TeamJesus
RT @PerpetuallA: #atheists are cowards, this is a well known fact #atheism #atheist + cite your source please. Seems to me you are too.
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22h The_Mind_Boggles @Baffled_Atheist
@Khaymansdad @PerpetuallA No-one braver than a keyboard warrior
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16h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Baffled_Atheist @Khaymansdad and no one's dumber than an internet atheist.
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16h ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA @Baffled_Atheist or an internet theist. They just block and shout insults, no substance only stupidity.
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16h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist I'm not the one blocking people, it's the atheists blocking me like the bullied autistics they are.
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16h ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA @Baffled_Atheist could it be that it's because you throw out insults and vitriol with no real substance? #atheist #TeamJesus
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15h ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA @Baffled_Atheist I had 2 moron theists block me, due to their lack of logic. Lol who is blocking whom? #atheist
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15h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist no, if I did that I'd be an atheist.
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15h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist well, I've had two moron atheists block me JUST TODAY after sending me "parting shot" messages. Frickin babies
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15h ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA @Baffled_Atheist then, welcome. Finally realized that talking to yourself doesn't work eh? #atheist #funny #TeamJesus
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@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist interesting, so you believe that anyone with any sense believes as you do, that your path is the "true path"
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16h ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA @Baffled_Atheist no, I said if you "think", and are rational and logical, you would find religion implausible. #atheist
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16h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist that's basically religious bigotry, thinking that your beliefs are the only correct ones.
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16h ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@PerpetuallA @Baffled_Atheist so you ARE a bigot?
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16h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist is it bigoted to think ill of cockroaches?
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6h The_Mind_Boggles @Baffled_Atheist
@PerpetuallA @Khaymansdad Quality! From someone who describes himself as a parasite in his own profile.
As you can see from this interaction, the Theist @perpetuallA is just baiting and throwing out insults with no facts or logic or even reason. Later he claims he is doing 'gods work' which is laughable. You will see what I mean....
John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Khaymansdad @Baffled_Atheist lol, you guys ARE desperate for converts aren't you?
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6h The_Mind_Boggles @Baffled_Atheist
@PerpetuallA @Khaymansdad Did Justin Bieber tell you to harass Atheists today or is it on your own initiative?
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5h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Baffled_Atheist @Khaymansdad doing God's work
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4h The_Mind_Boggles @Baffled_Atheist
@PerpetuallA @Khaymansdad As much as you may like him, I wouldn't call Bieber a God. Try taking a few of your posters down. Clear the mind.
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3h John Denver @PerpetuallA
@Baffled_Atheist @Khaymansdad didn't call bieber a god, but that's ok, most atheists are retarded.
33m The_Mind_Boggles @Baffled_Atheist
@PerpetuallA @Khaymansdad Don't be shy. You're clearly a Belieber. You've shown all the maturity of a 10 year old girl so far.
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13m ExhaltedOutcast @Khaymansdad
@Baffled_Atheist @PerpetuallA you said you were doing gods work? By harassing folks? I don't think I like your god very much. #atheist
Monday, January 21, 2013
Friday, January 18, 2013
The Mormon Articles of Faith ~~ The TRUTH Revealed ~~
Growing up LSD I was force fed these and made to memorize them so that I could have a "testimony" (forced belief) that the church was 'true' and that Joe Smith was really a prophet of god. I have been thinking about this recently and thought I would share the CORRECTED (Actually what they are) Articles of forced belief with you. The corrections are noted with an 'a'.
Keep in mind, this is MY interpretation, NOT someone Else's:
1 - We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
1a - We believe in a sky daddy with no proof of existence, that is abusive and forces us to give 10% of our money to the corporation.
2 - We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
2a - We firmly hold to the belief that we will be punished for our own sins and not for Adam eating an apple with his hottie girlfriend Eve.
3 - We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
3a- A hippy died so that we can be saved from a hell that doesn't exist and we MUST pay our 10% and memorize our secret handshakes in the 'temple club' to get into heaven.
4 - We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
4a- We believe that you must have a faith in a fairy tale, saying I'm sorry to sky daddy when we sin as well as telling our bishops all our dirty laundry for his amusement, dunking our children at 8 years old so that they are now forced members in this insanity and then that you need some old dude to tell you, that you NOW can know right from wrong because he blessed you so.
5 - We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
5a - We believe that even when the person who is called is molesting children and stealing from the members of the congregation that he was still called by 'god'. Even if this called person commits horrible acts, he was called by 'god'.
6 - We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
6a - Much like any corporation we have an organizational structure primarily for the perpetuation of our myths and the collection of funds to benefit the corporation as a whole with one exception: the shareholders (members) have no say in it.
7 - We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
7a - This is especially true with our child molesting leaders as they 'translate/interperet' their tongues on children often. Also, visions of no earrings and silly dress code rules are common.
8 - We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
8a - By 'translated correctly' we mean to benefit OUR dogma. The book of Mormon is the word of god if god was in Joe Smith's imagination. (see dead sea scrolls, urum and thummum etc.,)
9 - We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
9a - We believe that god takes the time to tell our members how to dress, what underwear to wear and when to scrub the toilets on Saturdays, because THAT is what god reveals.
10 - We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisaical glory.
10a - We have NO understanding of geography, science or archeology. We simply believe these fantastical things because Joe Smith said so.
11 - We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
11a - We made up our own religion so Nyaaa, nyaa!
12 - We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
12a - Entertaining especially as it relates to polygamy and Brigham Young's attempt to secede from the Union.
13 - We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
13a - This is great, except Joe Smith DIDN'T follow this one! Chasing after other guys wives, ordering 'hits' on presidential candidates etc., I guess doing good to all men is only valid if those men are either believers or beneficial to the corporations cause.
I hope you found this entertaining, I did.
Keep in mind, this is MY interpretation, NOT someone Else's:
1 - We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
1a - We believe in a sky daddy with no proof of existence, that is abusive and forces us to give 10% of our money to the corporation.
2 - We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
2a - We firmly hold to the belief that we will be punished for our own sins and not for Adam eating an apple with his hottie girlfriend Eve.
3 - We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
3a- A hippy died so that we can be saved from a hell that doesn't exist and we MUST pay our 10% and memorize our secret handshakes in the 'temple club' to get into heaven.
4 - We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
4a- We believe that you must have a faith in a fairy tale, saying I'm sorry to sky daddy when we sin as well as telling our bishops all our dirty laundry for his amusement, dunking our children at 8 years old so that they are now forced members in this insanity and then that you need some old dude to tell you, that you NOW can know right from wrong because he blessed you so.
5 - We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
5a - We believe that even when the person who is called is molesting children and stealing from the members of the congregation that he was still called by 'god'. Even if this called person commits horrible acts, he was called by 'god'.
6 - We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
6a - Much like any corporation we have an organizational structure primarily for the perpetuation of our myths and the collection of funds to benefit the corporation as a whole with one exception: the shareholders (members) have no say in it.
7 - We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
7a - This is especially true with our child molesting leaders as they 'translate/interperet' their tongues on children often. Also, visions of no earrings and silly dress code rules are common.
8 - We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
8a - By 'translated correctly' we mean to benefit OUR dogma. The book of Mormon is the word of god if god was in Joe Smith's imagination. (see dead sea scrolls, urum and thummum etc.,)
9 - We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
9a - We believe that god takes the time to tell our members how to dress, what underwear to wear and when to scrub the toilets on Saturdays, because THAT is what god reveals.
10 - We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisaical glory.
10a - We have NO understanding of geography, science or archeology. We simply believe these fantastical things because Joe Smith said so.
11 - We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
11a - We made up our own religion so Nyaaa, nyaa!
12 - We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
12a - Entertaining especially as it relates to polygamy and Brigham Young's attempt to secede from the Union.
13 - We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
13a - This is great, except Joe Smith DIDN'T follow this one! Chasing after other guys wives, ordering 'hits' on presidential candidates etc., I guess doing good to all men is only valid if those men are either believers or beneficial to the corporations cause.
I hope you found this entertaining, I did.
Tuesday, January 15, 2013
"Faith inducing" Bible Passages
I got to thinking what passages in the bible would cause one to really have "faith" in our favorite 'sky daddy' and the work that was completed in his name by our iron and bronze age goat herders. I couldn't honestly find a ton of really inspirational passages as they all seem to lead down the same dark road. I did find a few that I think are thought provoking and if the Xian fundamentalist actually took the time to THINK about them, may consider altering his/her position on the subject entirely.
Without further ado, here goes:
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)
"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)
"You shall not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:18)
"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." (Psalm 137:9)
"When the men would not listen to his host, the husband seized his concubine and thrust her outside to them. They had relations with her and abused her all night until the following dawn, when they let her go. Then at daybreak the woman came and collapsed at the entrance of the house in which her husband was a guest, where she lay until the morning. When her husband rose that day and opened the door of the house to start out again on his journey, there lay the woman, his concubine, at the entrance of the house with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, 'Come, let us go'; but there was no answer. So the man placed her on an ass and started out again for home." (Judges 19:25-28)
"And the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity." (Romans 1:27)
"Jephthah made a vow to the Lord. 'If you deliver the Ammonites into my power,' he said, 'whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites shall belong to the Lord. I shall offer him up as a holocaust.' ... When Jephthah returned to his house in Mizpah, it was his daughter who came forth, playing the tambourines and dancing. She was an only child: he had neither son nor daughter besides her. When he saw her, he rent his garments and said, 'Alas, daughter, you have struck me down and brought calamity upon me. For I have made a vow to the Lord and I cannot retract'." (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)
"Then God said: 'Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you'."(Genesis 22:2)
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18) Interesting aren't they? Get ya thinking a bit? It should....
Without further ado, here goes:
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)
"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)
"You shall not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:18)
"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." (Psalm 137:9)
"When the men would not listen to his host, the husband seized his concubine and thrust her outside to them. They had relations with her and abused her all night until the following dawn, when they let her go. Then at daybreak the woman came and collapsed at the entrance of the house in which her husband was a guest, where she lay until the morning. When her husband rose that day and opened the door of the house to start out again on his journey, there lay the woman, his concubine, at the entrance of the house with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, 'Come, let us go'; but there was no answer. So the man placed her on an ass and started out again for home." (Judges 19:25-28)
"And the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity." (Romans 1:27)
"Jephthah made a vow to the Lord. 'If you deliver the Ammonites into my power,' he said, 'whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites shall belong to the Lord. I shall offer him up as a holocaust.' ... When Jephthah returned to his house in Mizpah, it was his daughter who came forth, playing the tambourines and dancing. She was an only child: he had neither son nor daughter besides her. When he saw her, he rent his garments and said, 'Alas, daughter, you have struck me down and brought calamity upon me. For I have made a vow to the Lord and I cannot retract'." (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)
"Then God said: 'Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you'."(Genesis 22:2)
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18) Interesting aren't they? Get ya thinking a bit? It should....
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Horrible examples of christian propaganda
I won't take credit for this one, it was published on Pleated Jeans.com It is funny though and thought I would share it here. Most of these are very disturbing, unless of course you are a crazy fucking fundamentalist that finds this stuff legitimate.
And finally....something that really shows you what the idiot fundamentalists REALLY Believe!
These sickos spread this garbage everywhere and fell justified in doing it, since they are doing GAWDS work right? If I went round posting these signs etc., regarding xians, they would sat that I am persecuting THEM!
Fuck you fundamentalists.
Fuck you fundamentalists.
Monday, January 7, 2013
Christian Mingle Dating website
If you watch T.V. at all you have probably seen the advertisements for Christian mingle.com where "you can find gods' match for you". Every time I see this commercial I have to laugh. I have even lost my coffee out my nose once when I saw it.
Seriously? Gawd will PERSONALLY match you with someone you can spend you life with? That is what the all powerful supreme is up to now adays? Matching desperate losers with potential mates to propagate the species? I didn't know gawd was into web development and dating sites.
This brings up a few questions that I must now ask:
1 - the supreme creator of the universe actually cares who you date?
2 - If the SC cares who you date, why wasn't that something listed in the buybull?
3 - Why wasn't there at least one reference to www.christianmingle.com anywhere in the 'good book' for us to all KNOW that we should use the site to find an acceptable mate?
4 - What ever did the bronze age hermits and farmers do prior to the advent of the Internet and "gods site"?
5 - Am I supposed to believe that the only place I can now find a good match for me is if SC deems them worthy on this website?
6 - Have you seen their promos online for this site? It's almost hilarious how they use scantily clad women to draw in the losers to find their "gawd match" online. Check out this link and you will see what I mean: Christian mingle ad
7 - Since SC cares so much about whether or not I get laid by a good christian woman, I wonder does she KNOW that she will be sucking my cock at SC's behest?
8 - If she does KNOW this, this could be a boon for all Atheists everywhere! We could all get accounts and use the "Gawd said we are a match, so suck it" approach and get head for days right?
9 - Which programmer has the direct link to SC? I want to meet that geek!
10 - Does SC use a PC or a Mac for his computing needs?
I am not sure exactly on any of these questions, can anyone tell me please, what is the need for SC to have a dating website for desperate christian singles? How does that benefit SC and it's domination of the universe?
Seriously? Gawd will PERSONALLY match you with someone you can spend you life with? That is what the all powerful supreme is up to now adays? Matching desperate losers with potential mates to propagate the species? I didn't know gawd was into web development and dating sites.
This brings up a few questions that I must now ask:
1 - the supreme creator of the universe actually cares who you date?
2 - If the SC cares who you date, why wasn't that something listed in the buybull?
3 - Why wasn't there at least one reference to www.christianmingle.com anywhere in the 'good book' for us to all KNOW that we should use the site to find an acceptable mate?
4 - What ever did the bronze age hermits and farmers do prior to the advent of the Internet and "gods site"?
5 - Am I supposed to believe that the only place I can now find a good match for me is if SC deems them worthy on this website?
6 - Have you seen their promos online for this site? It's almost hilarious how they use scantily clad women to draw in the losers to find their "gawd match" online. Check out this link and you will see what I mean: Christian mingle ad
7 - Since SC cares so much about whether or not I get laid by a good christian woman, I wonder does she KNOW that she will be sucking my cock at SC's behest?
8 - If she does KNOW this, this could be a boon for all Atheists everywhere! We could all get accounts and use the "Gawd said we are a match, so suck it" approach and get head for days right?
9 - Which programmer has the direct link to SC? I want to meet that geek!
10 - Does SC use a PC or a Mac for his computing needs?
I am not sure exactly on any of these questions, can anyone tell me please, what is the need for SC to have a dating website for desperate christian singles? How does that benefit SC and it's domination of the universe?
Friday, January 4, 2013
The "Blind Lizard" argument
I know, it's been a while since I have posted anything. It's been a VERY busy couple months with moving suddenly (the house I was renting had black mold), having hernia surgery for the 3rd time and the holidays. I will say I made it through all of it without thinking I should pray to anyone or anything even once! I would like to take a second though and thank the good doctors and nurses at IMC for their care and professionalism. They were great!
Last Saturday as my son and I were getting ready to go to the archery range and loose some arrows at a few very deserving paper targets, we received a visit from an evangelical whackadoo. I am not sure what faith he was promoting specifically as he didn't identify himself with any organized group. He was an older man and had a young african american boy with him in tow. When I answered the door, he immediately asks me without introducing himself if "I would like to discuss god with him"?
Now, I very rarely turn down a good debate and would normally have invited he and his little buddy in for a spirited debate on religion and the existence of a supreme being. Since I was getting ready to go, (bow in hand) I wasn't really in the mood for a long discussion with him and politely said "No, thanks. I'm not a believer and this would be a waste of your time."
He stood there for less than 2 seconds and started into a tirade regarding creation and evolution. I am not sure why he went there, I didn't mention anything of the sort to him. I politely responded that there isn't a creator and that evolution proves itself, all he would need to do is examine any animal or for that matter human being and he could see evolution in action.
This is when he got weird on me: He looked at me and said "what about blind lizards?" then went on to explain how a blind lizard would die if god didn't give it eyes. I told him that there are plenty of blind animals and other life forms on the planet that do just fine. He insisted that if god didn't give blind animals eyes they would all die. At that point I knew I was dealing with a crackpot and realized that there was going to be no simple end to this conversation so I stood there mute for about three minutes as he rambled on about blind animals and gods link to them. He asked me if that made me think that there could be a god, I simply said no it makes me think you don't know what you are talking about.
He then says "well we have stuff to do" and turned and walked away.
Has anyone else dealt with this before? I have no idea where he was going with the blind lizard argument. If it was to convice me of a creator it didn't work, it only convinced me that he was an idiot that had no idea what he was talking about.
It's good to be back. I will make sure to post more to keep you all entertained.
Last Saturday as my son and I were getting ready to go to the archery range and loose some arrows at a few very deserving paper targets, we received a visit from an evangelical whackadoo. I am not sure what faith he was promoting specifically as he didn't identify himself with any organized group. He was an older man and had a young african american boy with him in tow. When I answered the door, he immediately asks me without introducing himself if "I would like to discuss god with him"?
Now, I very rarely turn down a good debate and would normally have invited he and his little buddy in for a spirited debate on religion and the existence of a supreme being. Since I was getting ready to go, (bow in hand) I wasn't really in the mood for a long discussion with him and politely said "No, thanks. I'm not a believer and this would be a waste of your time."
He stood there for less than 2 seconds and started into a tirade regarding creation and evolution. I am not sure why he went there, I didn't mention anything of the sort to him. I politely responded that there isn't a creator and that evolution proves itself, all he would need to do is examine any animal or for that matter human being and he could see evolution in action.
This is when he got weird on me: He looked at me and said "what about blind lizards?" then went on to explain how a blind lizard would die if god didn't give it eyes. I told him that there are plenty of blind animals and other life forms on the planet that do just fine. He insisted that if god didn't give blind animals eyes they would all die. At that point I knew I was dealing with a crackpot and realized that there was going to be no simple end to this conversation so I stood there mute for about three minutes as he rambled on about blind animals and gods link to them. He asked me if that made me think that there could be a god, I simply said no it makes me think you don't know what you are talking about.
He then says "well we have stuff to do" and turned and walked away.
Has anyone else dealt with this before? I have no idea where he was going with the blind lizard argument. If it was to convice me of a creator it didn't work, it only convinced me that he was an idiot that had no idea what he was talking about.
It's good to be back. I will make sure to post more to keep you all entertained.
Thursday, August 23, 2012
Church is back in session
I think the pictures speak for themselves, my two favorite things. Curves and football, not necessarily in that order!
Friday, August 17, 2012
Death and longing
I received some rough news yesterday. My cousin passed on Monday night. It is sad, I will miss him, there are so many memories, stories I still tell my son.
Chad M. West. I will miss you buddy.
Saturday, August 11, 2012
Saturday, July 7, 2012
I wish religion were this tasty
If religion looked like her, I would be in church praying to the holy bootie every Sunday and twice on Friday!
Friday, July 6, 2012
Payday sucks
I have direct deposit, and od xouese just when you count on it, my emoloyer screws it up..fees to deal with
Monday, July 2, 2012
Is it him? Sunderland friends find the face of Jesus in a Chinese takeaway - All News - Sunderland Echo
Is it him? Sunderland friends find the face of Jesus in a Chinese takeaway - All News - Sunderland Echo
Wow. What do they think? God is revealing himself in chinese takeout?
OOOOOH That's proof that God exists!!
Wow. What do they think? God is revealing himself in chinese takeout?
OOOOOH That's proof that God exists!!
Friday, June 29, 2012
Jackson Hole Here I come
This post has nothing to do with religion or politics.
I am FINALLY going on VACATION! I need the freakin' time off! WooHoo!!
I am of course going with my in-laws so I will probably have some great stories to share when I get back.
White Water for me!!!
I can't wait
I am FINALLY going on VACATION! I need the freakin' time off! WooHoo!!
I am of course going with my in-laws so I will probably have some great stories to share when I get back.
White Water for me!!!
I can't wait
Monday, June 25, 2012
Typical Mormon Jibber Jab
Have you noticed how Mormon "defenders" always twist logic and fact to meet their twisted view of reality?
I read an article in The Salt Lake Tribune where the author goes out of her way to defend the Mormon Church from accusations that Joseph Smith was a fraud. It's almost humorous.
In one sentence she says:"I have to disagree with the article’s implicit conclusion that leaving Mormonism — or indeed any religious tradition — is the only logical choice for a rational, educated person."
But it is! If you are logical and look at things from a point of view of reality and reason, you would choose to leave.
She then says "The logic behind this loss of faith — Joseph Smith was a fraud, therefore the religion that he founded is phony, and one’s entire experience as a Mormon is bogus — is actually just the reverse of how many Mormons approach their faith. If the Book of Mormon is true, the thinking goes, then everything Joseph Smith did or said was divinely inspired. And if Joseph Smith was divinely inspired in everything, then everything about the church is just how God wants it."
As you can see from the above quote, she specifically and pointedly lets you know that Mormons live in delusion. They ignore fact and reality and instead live in a fantasy world where they can twist the truth and the facts to fit their warped sense of truth.
She then goes on to say "I am an active Mormon and I love my church. At the same time, I can empathize with the disillusionment felt by those who investigate LDS history for the first time after having been exposed only to sanitized versions of church history."
That's funny considering that the 'sanitized' version is what is TAUGHT in church to all the faithful. The ONLY way that a member of the LDS Church learns anything other than that is if they look outside the faith and see what is there.
Here's what I see; Much like a True/False test in school, if ANY part of the question is false, the entire question is false. If I extrapolate it out, if any part of the faith is false the entire faith is false. How can a faith be true and correct if it is founded on falsehoods? Logically, it cannot be. Therefore it MUST be false and incorrect.
Since there is a myriad of evidence proving that many of the principles and foundations of the LDS church are false, the entire faith must then be false.
I am going to list just a couple of the falsehoods of the church. You tell me, how can it be true if these falsehoods exist?
1 - The Book of Abraham (the scrolls that JS "translated" from were Egyptian Funerary scrolls. nothing special at all and definitely NOT the story of Abraham)
2 - The blatant plagiarism of the Book of Mormon from the Bible. (I realize that the Bible is fiction too, it's just sad that Joseph Smith stole from such obvious fiction)
As I said earlier. It's a lie. Open your eyes and see it for what it is.
I read an article in The Salt Lake Tribune where the author goes out of her way to defend the Mormon Church from accusations that Joseph Smith was a fraud. It's almost humorous.
In one sentence she says:"I have to disagree with the article’s implicit conclusion that leaving Mormonism — or indeed any religious tradition — is the only logical choice for a rational, educated person."
But it is! If you are logical and look at things from a point of view of reality and reason, you would choose to leave.
She then says "The logic behind this loss of faith — Joseph Smith was a fraud, therefore the religion that he founded is phony, and one’s entire experience as a Mormon is bogus — is actually just the reverse of how many Mormons approach their faith. If the Book of Mormon is true, the thinking goes, then everything Joseph Smith did or said was divinely inspired. And if Joseph Smith was divinely inspired in everything, then everything about the church is just how God wants it."
As you can see from the above quote, she specifically and pointedly lets you know that Mormons live in delusion. They ignore fact and reality and instead live in a fantasy world where they can twist the truth and the facts to fit their warped sense of truth.
She then goes on to say "I am an active Mormon and I love my church. At the same time, I can empathize with the disillusionment felt by those who investigate LDS history for the first time after having been exposed only to sanitized versions of church history."
That's funny considering that the 'sanitized' version is what is TAUGHT in church to all the faithful. The ONLY way that a member of the LDS Church learns anything other than that is if they look outside the faith and see what is there.
Here's what I see; Much like a True/False test in school, if ANY part of the question is false, the entire question is false. If I extrapolate it out, if any part of the faith is false the entire faith is false. How can a faith be true and correct if it is founded on falsehoods? Logically, it cannot be. Therefore it MUST be false and incorrect.
Since there is a myriad of evidence proving that many of the principles and foundations of the LDS church are false, the entire faith must then be false.
I am going to list just a couple of the falsehoods of the church. You tell me, how can it be true if these falsehoods exist?
1 - The Book of Abraham (the scrolls that JS "translated" from were Egyptian Funerary scrolls. nothing special at all and definitely NOT the story of Abraham)
2 - The blatant plagiarism of the Book of Mormon from the Bible. (I realize that the Bible is fiction too, it's just sad that Joseph Smith stole from such obvious fiction)
As I said earlier. It's a lie. Open your eyes and see it for what it is.
Tuesday, June 19, 2012
How to tell if your religion is bad? 5 signs!
According to Shayne Looper of the GateHouse News Service, there are 5 signs that your religion may be bad. I am going to take it a bit further and say 5 signs that ALL religion is bad.
1 - It makes people servants of an ideology rather than of the common good or their fellow man. These are people that value the differences in their belief structure more than they value their friends, family or fellow man. Every religion suffers from this malady.
2 - Religion makes people unhappy. Religion promises joy and happiness BUT ONLY after ALL other preconditions are met.
3 - Religion is founded on excluding others. Religion in any form is an alienating force, it pushes non-believers away and believers together, alienating anyone with differing beliefs from the group. The leaders of religions spend a large amount of their time speaking almost happily of others failures and how wrong other groups are for believing in their own way.
4 - Religion uses the Us/Them rhetoric to justify classifying non-believers as "the enemy". A prime example is "the war on religion". There isn't a war on religion, just folks trying to not be force-fed some superstitious beliefs that we ALL know are garbage.
5 - Religion is compassionless. Religion is self-centered. It is all about finding self-fulfillment, rather than truth. Being right rather than being fair and gaining success instead of offering kindness. This leaves little to no room for compassion.
I am not sure exactly how people continue to stay in groups that encourage this behavior. As a parent I always tried to teach my son to be compassionate, caring and kind to others. This is WHY I didn't indoctrinate him with religion.
I find the superiority complex that many religious folks have offensive and abusive. My own nephew goes out of his way to tell all the 'non-member' (not LDS) cousins in the family how "It must suck to not be Mormon." His arrogance is appalling. I have brought it up to his parents to no avail. It's just sad. On a bright note, my son did kick his butt for it once, that was good times.
1 - It makes people servants of an ideology rather than of the common good or their fellow man. These are people that value the differences in their belief structure more than they value their friends, family or fellow man. Every religion suffers from this malady.
2 - Religion makes people unhappy. Religion promises joy and happiness BUT ONLY after ALL other preconditions are met.
3 - Religion is founded on excluding others. Religion in any form is an alienating force, it pushes non-believers away and believers together, alienating anyone with differing beliefs from the group. The leaders of religions spend a large amount of their time speaking almost happily of others failures and how wrong other groups are for believing in their own way.
4 - Religion uses the Us/Them rhetoric to justify classifying non-believers as "the enemy". A prime example is "the war on religion". There isn't a war on religion, just folks trying to not be force-fed some superstitious beliefs that we ALL know are garbage.
5 - Religion is compassionless. Religion is self-centered. It is all about finding self-fulfillment, rather than truth. Being right rather than being fair and gaining success instead of offering kindness. This leaves little to no room for compassion.
I am not sure exactly how people continue to stay in groups that encourage this behavior. As a parent I always tried to teach my son to be compassionate, caring and kind to others. This is WHY I didn't indoctrinate him with religion.
I find the superiority complex that many religious folks have offensive and abusive. My own nephew goes out of his way to tell all the 'non-member' (not LDS) cousins in the family how "It must suck to not be Mormon." His arrogance is appalling. I have brought it up to his parents to no avail. It's just sad. On a bright note, my son did kick his butt for it once, that was good times.
Thursday, June 14, 2012
Defending Mormonism?!?
I was on the Mormon.org website reading some rather bland but somewhat interesting articles and came across this defense of Mormonism not being a cult. I thought I would share it here since my responses will never see the light of day on their site. My responses will be in bold italics inside their responses.
First here is their defense/ statement regarding being labeled a cult:
One definition listed for ‘cult’ in Webster’s Dictionary is “a religion regarded as unorthodox.” Since the roots of Mormonism are not a break off from the Catholic or Protestant churches, it is seen by some as “unorthodox.” No, it is seen as unorthodox because it was made up out of thin air by Joseph Smith. For example, the LDS definition of the Godhead differs from the Nicene Creed accepted by most Catholic or Protestant churches. The “cult” label is usually applied by Church opponents attempting to criticize or discredit the Church. Again, incorrect. The cult label is applied to the LDS Church because it behaves like a cult. (see my previous post on this for more evidence)However, sometimes it’s simply a matter of characterization that has grown up over time by the lack of understanding. Such misunderstandings often vanish when people begin to realize the commonality of what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints really teaches and believes. That Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that He is the Savior and Redeemer of the world whom we love and worship. Along with Joseph Smith right? When people begin to see and recognize these things about Mormons, then their opinion of the Church usually changes, and old beliefs are replaced with new understanding.
What I really see when I read this is the following: LDS inc. does NOT address any of the issues behind WHY people label them as a cult. They don't deal with the facts that their BOM was plagiarized from the bible, that the Book of Abraham was a complete FRAUD. Nor, do they address any of the charges surrounding their being a cult and false doctrine to say the least.
Here are some of the comments defending Mormonism on the site:
Mormon's are viewed as a cult by some because we do not adhere to the fundamental creeds established by the other Christian churches, such as the Nicene or Athenian Creeds, and their view of the Godhead. Latter-day Saints are viewed by other Christians just like the early Christians were viewed by the Jews and Romans of the time, which was as a cult, because they strayed from what seemed to them orthodox Judaism. AND much like the early Christians and any other religion on the planet, IT IS A CULT. Much like the Pharisees and Sadducee's, who viewed orthodoxy through the lens of the rules laid out in the rabbinical law and their interpretation of the Law of Moses, the Christians of today view orthodoxy through the lens of the creeds that were established hundreds of years after the death of Christ under the opinion and counsels of men. Oh, and Mormons don't? Really? What about the "earring revelation" at General Conference a few years ago? What about all the ramblings of Brigham Young? What about the B.S that Joseph Smith spouted? All the "counsels of men" right?
I think some call Mormonism a cult mainly because they don't understand what it's about. Before I was a Mormon, I used to believe that Mormons did not believe in the Bible, in Jesus Christ and a good deal of other things. I didn't realize how incorrect I was. There have been some pretty amazing things that have happened in conjunction with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and if you don't get the whole picture, then some of the stuff can sound pretty odd, and I think that's where I was before. Some of the stuff can sound ODD? No, it is WEIRD to the maximum degree. Let me guess, you think all the throat cutting motions and talking to the 'devil' in the temple is normal right?
An example I sometimes use is: if someone told you that he had cut a man with a knife, from that limited piece of information, you'd probably report him for stabbing someone. But if you found out that this someone was a Doctor, and that he was preforming a surgery to save a man's life, having the full story completely changes your perspective on the situation. In that analogy possibly. What doctor in his right mind would just say "I cut someone with a knife"? NONE! Doctors wouldn't say that, only someone uneducated and not a doctor would say that. It's a ridiculous position.
In regards to the church I belong to, once I did have the whole story, You don't have the whole story. If you did, you would leave. Much like the 70% of converts do. I could see that Mormons were not cultish, but that they really are in fact Christians. Which by the way are a cult too. I've even found that I have a stronger love of the the core things I believed before I was a Mormon, like the Bible and Jesus Christ Good for you! You love your imaginary friends and fictional novels. Good for you.
To sum things up:
Mormonism like all religion is a cult. A cult designed to take your money, your time and your energy and in return give you a warm, fuzzy feeling. Not much of a trade off.
I cannot think of a single religion that doesn't display cultic behavior. If you can, please let me know.
First here is their defense/ statement regarding being labeled a cult:
One definition listed for ‘cult’ in Webster’s Dictionary is “a religion regarded as unorthodox.” Since the roots of Mormonism are not a break off from the Catholic or Protestant churches, it is seen by some as “unorthodox.” No, it is seen as unorthodox because it was made up out of thin air by Joseph Smith. For example, the LDS definition of the Godhead differs from the Nicene Creed accepted by most Catholic or Protestant churches. The “cult” label is usually applied by Church opponents attempting to criticize or discredit the Church. Again, incorrect. The cult label is applied to the LDS Church because it behaves like a cult. (see my previous post on this for more evidence)However, sometimes it’s simply a matter of characterization that has grown up over time by the lack of understanding. Such misunderstandings often vanish when people begin to realize the commonality of what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints really teaches and believes. That Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that He is the Savior and Redeemer of the world whom we love and worship. Along with Joseph Smith right? When people begin to see and recognize these things about Mormons, then their opinion of the Church usually changes, and old beliefs are replaced with new understanding.
What I really see when I read this is the following: LDS inc. does NOT address any of the issues behind WHY people label them as a cult. They don't deal with the facts that their BOM was plagiarized from the bible, that the Book of Abraham was a complete FRAUD. Nor, do they address any of the charges surrounding their being a cult and false doctrine to say the least.
Here are some of the comments defending Mormonism on the site:
Mormon's are viewed as a cult by some because we do not adhere to the fundamental creeds established by the other Christian churches, such as the Nicene or Athenian Creeds, and their view of the Godhead. Latter-day Saints are viewed by other Christians just like the early Christians were viewed by the Jews and Romans of the time, which was as a cult, because they strayed from what seemed to them orthodox Judaism. AND much like the early Christians and any other religion on the planet, IT IS A CULT. Much like the Pharisees and Sadducee's, who viewed orthodoxy through the lens of the rules laid out in the rabbinical law and their interpretation of the Law of Moses, the Christians of today view orthodoxy through the lens of the creeds that were established hundreds of years after the death of Christ under the opinion and counsels of men. Oh, and Mormons don't? Really? What about the "earring revelation" at General Conference a few years ago? What about all the ramblings of Brigham Young? What about the B.S that Joseph Smith spouted? All the "counsels of men" right?
I think some call Mormonism a cult mainly because they don't understand what it's about. Before I was a Mormon, I used to believe that Mormons did not believe in the Bible, in Jesus Christ and a good deal of other things. I didn't realize how incorrect I was. There have been some pretty amazing things that have happened in conjunction with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and if you don't get the whole picture, then some of the stuff can sound pretty odd, and I think that's where I was before. Some of the stuff can sound ODD? No, it is WEIRD to the maximum degree. Let me guess, you think all the throat cutting motions and talking to the 'devil' in the temple is normal right?
An example I sometimes use is: if someone told you that he had cut a man with a knife, from that limited piece of information, you'd probably report him for stabbing someone. But if you found out that this someone was a Doctor, and that he was preforming a surgery to save a man's life, having the full story completely changes your perspective on the situation. In that analogy possibly. What doctor in his right mind would just say "I cut someone with a knife"? NONE! Doctors wouldn't say that, only someone uneducated and not a doctor would say that. It's a ridiculous position.
In regards to the church I belong to, once I did have the whole story, You don't have the whole story. If you did, you would leave. Much like the 70% of converts do. I could see that Mormons were not cultish, but that they really are in fact Christians. Which by the way are a cult too. I've even found that I have a stronger love of the the core things I believed before I was a Mormon, like the Bible and Jesus Christ Good for you! You love your imaginary friends and fictional novels. Good for you.
To sum things up:
Mormonism like all religion is a cult. A cult designed to take your money, your time and your energy and in return give you a warm, fuzzy feeling. Not much of a trade off.
I cannot think of a single religion that doesn't display cultic behavior. If you can, please let me know.
Monday, June 11, 2012
Mormon411: My Conversion - From Mormonism to Atheism
Mormon411: My Conversion - From Mormonism to Atheism: Last week I published the testimony of the person who authors http://becominglds.blogspot.com/ . This LDS blogger has a few other Mormon re...
I read this on my Bro-inlaws blog and wanted to share it here. It's very poignant and makes some very valid points.
I read this on my Bro-inlaws blog and wanted to share it here. It's very poignant and makes some very valid points.
Thursday, June 7, 2012
Fake Bill Collector Scam!
There I was on my day off, relaxing and enjoying some time with my wife. Catching up on The Hatfields & McCoys that we DVR'd, when I get a text message.
The message read: "You've had ample notice & ignored your obligation. You have 4 hrs to call 888-699-9726 to pay or it goes out for legal/civil action. A14214."
I was surprised to say the least. I don't have any obligations that I correspond with via text messaging. The last time I had an account that would text me was my car note, which by the way, I paid off and have the title for the car OVER A YEAR AGO. They would only text me to remind me of my due date each month, which I actually appreciated.
This brings up a couple of issues:
1 - They didn't put my name or any other identifying information in the text message. How do they know if it's even the RIGHT PERSON they are texting with this information?
2 - It is a violation of the FDCPA for a collection agency to reveal information of that nature via text messaging, especially when they don't have permission (I didn't sign up for it) to send the information.
3 - Threatening legal action is illegal according to the FDCPA.
4 - No listing of the original creditor or the name of their company? Illegal as well.
I Googled the phone number and what do you know? Nothing but complaints from people that got the same text messages. Some of those poor people actually called the number and made arrangements to pay this supposed debt. These poor people actually allowed a company that violated their rights access to their accounts to debit the funds this 'company' says they owe.
I read of several instances where this 'company' told people that they couldn't pay via money order but that they had to pay via CC or bank account. FRAUD. Anyone knows that collection agencies MUST accept payment for a debt in whatever form you choose to send it. This same company also refused to give these people their address or contact information, stating that: " If you don't make arrangements now, we will file suit and you will have to pay back 10x the amount." So, a "debt" of say $300 now becomes $3000? NOT LEGAL.
Several things you should look out for when dealing with anyone that says you owe them money:
1 - In writing, send them a Validation of Debt letter. You can find many examples of this just by googling it.
2 - Demand that they give you their address, registered agent and the original creditor when you speak with them.
3 - Do NOT make any arrangements to pay anything UNTIL they have validated the debt to YOUR satisfaction.
4 - Understand your rights: Read the FDCPA (Fair debt collection practices act)
5 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to call you before 8am and after 9pm.
6 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to threaten you in any way.
7 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to call you and harass you.
8 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to divulge ANY information about the debt to anyone but the debtor.
9 - When asked, the collector MUST give you their address and all contact information.
10 - Collectors MUST accept payment from you in whatever form you choose to send it. They cannot demand any specific type of payment.
If you ever have questions or feel that you are being abused by a collector, contact your local Attorney Generals office and let them know what is happening. As an added bonus, any time they violate the FDCPA, it's $1500 to YOU!
Document when they violate your rights, keep track and you can beat back the cheats!
The message read: "You've had ample notice & ignored your obligation. You have 4 hrs to call 888-699-9726 to pay or it goes out for legal/civil action. A14214."
I was surprised to say the least. I don't have any obligations that I correspond with via text messaging. The last time I had an account that would text me was my car note, which by the way, I paid off and have the title for the car OVER A YEAR AGO. They would only text me to remind me of my due date each month, which I actually appreciated.
This brings up a couple of issues:
1 - They didn't put my name or any other identifying information in the text message. How do they know if it's even the RIGHT PERSON they are texting with this information?
2 - It is a violation of the FDCPA for a collection agency to reveal information of that nature via text messaging, especially when they don't have permission (I didn't sign up for it) to send the information.
3 - Threatening legal action is illegal according to the FDCPA.
4 - No listing of the original creditor or the name of their company? Illegal as well.
I Googled the phone number and what do you know? Nothing but complaints from people that got the same text messages. Some of those poor people actually called the number and made arrangements to pay this supposed debt. These poor people actually allowed a company that violated their rights access to their accounts to debit the funds this 'company' says they owe.
I read of several instances where this 'company' told people that they couldn't pay via money order but that they had to pay via CC or bank account. FRAUD. Anyone knows that collection agencies MUST accept payment for a debt in whatever form you choose to send it. This same company also refused to give these people their address or contact information, stating that: " If you don't make arrangements now, we will file suit and you will have to pay back 10x the amount." So, a "debt" of say $300 now becomes $3000? NOT LEGAL.
Several things you should look out for when dealing with anyone that says you owe them money:
1 - In writing, send them a Validation of Debt letter. You can find many examples of this just by googling it.
2 - Demand that they give you their address, registered agent and the original creditor when you speak with them.
3 - Do NOT make any arrangements to pay anything UNTIL they have validated the debt to YOUR satisfaction.
4 - Understand your rights: Read the FDCPA (Fair debt collection practices act)
5 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to call you before 8am and after 9pm.
6 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to threaten you in any way.
7 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to call you and harass you.
8 - It is ILLEGAL for a collector to divulge ANY information about the debt to anyone but the debtor.
9 - When asked, the collector MUST give you their address and all contact information.
10 - Collectors MUST accept payment from you in whatever form you choose to send it. They cannot demand any specific type of payment.
If you ever have questions or feel that you are being abused by a collector, contact your local Attorney Generals office and let them know what is happening. As an added bonus, any time they violate the FDCPA, it's $1500 to YOU!
Document when they violate your rights, keep track and you can beat back the cheats!
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